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Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!?
      07/22/12 08:09 PM (173.72.166.96)

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Is James Holmes an Atheist?

What do we know about him?

1)He loves science.

It's common knowledge that atheists generally place science as the pinnicale of human studies.




So?

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Does this warrant suspecting Holmes is an atheist.




Maybe. Not that his being an atheist or not makes what's about to follow from you any less stupid.

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The problem is that those who go into this field do so without a well rounded education.




Citation needed.

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They lack understanding of the other disciplines of knowledge.




Citation needed.

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Hence many scientists become materialists and atheists.




There is nothing "well-rounded" about believing in the wrong answers to the questions that scientists investigate day in an day out.

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2)He was a Phd candidate in Neuro-science.

An interest in the mind coupled with the materialist bent calls into question free-will and truth.




How so?

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Many who deal with this issues through the atheist paradigm come to unsettling conclusions.




How many? What conclusions? Where are you getting this "information"?

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This fact doesn't mean James Holmes was an atheist, but it suggests he struggled with this question, "what is the real meaning of life?"




So?

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If there is no God...is it all CHAOS?




Is it? I think there are no gods, and I don't think it's all chaos. I can't think of any atheists that I know who think it's chaos.

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*He called himself the "Joker" upon his arrest.

This is the point that compels me to think he is an atheist.




What does his attendance at a Presbyterian church tell you?

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I have argued many times before that the "Joker" seen in Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight" is someone who takes atheism to it's logical conclusion.




Is this your analysis, or someone else's?

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Click the links to see the arguments for this point, which I made some time ago:

Why the "Joker" is a true believing atheist.

Agents of Chaos

Why so serious?

I know the militant atheists like Bob and Pasta will try to change the subject and whine that I want to round up all atheists and place them in camps and claim I'm a Facist.




Or we could just destroy your argument, like usual.

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I'm not and I don't.




Not yet, anyway.

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People must have the freedom to believe what they believe.

However, that freedom doesn't mean their beliefs are free from scrutiny and criticism.




HAA!!!! The irony!!!

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The evils of their belief and how those beliefs adversely affect the person and society must be considered in order to help others see atheism is not a rational position, it is the least rational belief a person can hold.




OWWWW my sides!! Crackers turning into meat is MUCH more rational than crackers staying crackers.

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I am convinced atheism is indeed an evil and that its logical outworking is deterimental to the individual and society.




Meanwhile, some of the most socially conscious people these days are atheists...

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History has shown us time and time again that when atheists come into power, they are the most dangerous of people.




Most dangerous, right behind religious zealots. Zealots whose death tolls were only limited by their day's technology.

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Just look at the atheists on this forum, consider how many of them attack theists and try to hurt people emotionally for what they believe.




We attack the ideas. Except for you. You haven't earned the respect to not be attacked personally.

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I believe James Holmes is just one more example of someone seduced by the materialist rheotoric of atheism. He used his intelligence to consider what atheism really means, he looked into the abyss--that is atheism--and went mad, and like the Joker wanted everyone to look into the abyss with him.




Why is not believing in gods any more of an abyss than not believing in the loch ness monster? Neither is real, and I don't see too many people getting bent out of shape about things that are not real.

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That is no Joke.




Are you sure?

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I'm interested to see how this unfolds. Am I right about Holmes?




Not likely, but we'll see.

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We shall see.




Yes, thanks, I already said that.

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* Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis 07/22/12 10:15 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/29/12 08:54 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/26/12 09:33 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/27/12 05:51 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   07/26/12 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Palehorse   07/23/12 06:15 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   07/23/12 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/23/12 06:55 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   07/22/12 08:34 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Sipowitz   07/22/12 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Sipowitz   07/22/12 10:47 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/22/12 08:09 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   07/22/12 08:17 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   07/22/12 07:50 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   07/23/12 11:49 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/23/12 08:22 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/23/12 12:27 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Sipowitz   07/23/12 01:14 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? peabody   07/23/12 04:14 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/22/12 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   07/22/12 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? IndependentBoof   07/22/12 02:37 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   07/23/12 12:00 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? IndependentBoof   07/23/12 08:13 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   07/28/12 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? IndependentBoof   07/31/12 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   08/22/12 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   08/25/12 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   08/23/12 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   08/23/12 10:58 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   08/23/12 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   08/23/12 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   08/24/12 05:43 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   08/24/12 07:41 AM
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. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   08/22/12 08:51 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   08/22/12 09:13 AM
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. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   07/29/12 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? bbc   07/29/12 08:40 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/29/12 09:05 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? senor   07/29/12 10:43 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/29/12 05:00 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/29/12 07:03 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/29/12 07:10 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/29/12 06:33 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Clovis   07/29/12 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/29/12 06:02 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/29/12 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/28/12 07:30 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? Pastafari   07/28/12 08:09 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. True_Bob   07/28/12 07:13 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. Clovis   07/28/12 10:42 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. True_Bob   07/28/12 11:48 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. Clovis   07/28/12 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. Clovis   07/28/12 10:35 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. True_Bob   07/28/12 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. Clovis   07/28/12 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. True_Bob   07/28/12 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist? No evidence. Pastafari   07/28/12 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? silverspoon   07/24/12 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/22/12 10:43 AM
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. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/22/12 01:42 PM
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. * * Re: Was the Batman Killer an Atheist?!? True_Bob   07/23/12 12:13 PM
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