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Harpoon
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Supervisor Paul Milde's record
      #1530394 - 10/24/09 10:35 AM (67.142.130.13)

Court records don't lie. Take a look:

http://www.paulortiz.org/milde_crime_controversy.htm


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DebNearFred
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530395 - 10/24/09 10:47 AM (98.118.248.16)

quote from website:

Integrity. Experience.
Leadership we can be proud of!

How about this?:

I have no experience to back me up so I'm going to go digging and find info to smear my opponent

Give it a break. why doesn't Oritz run on a honest platform and stop the smear campaign? Let's talk about things that really matter to the citizens of Stafford.

We already have too many supervisors that act like rowdy teen age thugs in public. I guess Oritz is just following along.

Let's see a statesman in this race. I am getting tired of all the politician BS.

Thanks for making my mind up. Keep up the good work.

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Harpoon
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530417 - 10/24/09 12:35 PM (67.142.130.13)

So your position is that voters don't need to know that the Supervisor that spends their tax dollars and decides how much taxes they will pay isn't paying his own taxes?

That seems like a pretty important issue to me.

Crying "smear" is just a way to change the subject. If the local newspapers were doing their job, the candidate wouldn't have to poast court records on line.


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amebob
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530448 - 10/24/09 03:34 PM (71.120.7.135)

By linking to that particular page of Ortiz's website, you make it appear that his main qualification for office is that he does pay his taxes and hasn't been arrested. Many people fit that description, me for one. What differentiates Ortiz from say, me? Say I don't vote for Milde. Why should I vote for Ortiz rather than write in my own name?

I, too, detest negative campaigning. I absolutely will NOT vote for any candidate for any office who campaigns negatively. I have voted for myself, my dog and my cat. My cat actually got two votes for attorney general once because my wife voted for him too.

Keep it positive, unless there's nothing good to say.


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Harpoon
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530477 - 10/24/09 07:39 PM (67.142.130.13)

Amebob, maybe my cat should run against your cat for Aquia Supervsior. That way, whichever one won, we would just eat, sleep, purr and play all the time, which sounds good to me!

Seriously, I posted a link to that part of the website because frankly, I was pretty surprised by what I read there. I was around four years ago when we heard ad nauseum about Milde's felony conviction. But what I had no idea about was how up to this day he doesn't pay his bills or taxes until he's taken to court! Keep in mind, this is the guy that decides how much those of us who actually pay our property taxes are going to have to fork over, and is the same guy that spends our tax dollars.

There's plenty of positive on Ortiz's website, so here are a couple of links:

http://www.paulortiz.org/Issues.htm

http://www.paulortiz.org/about.htm


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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530479 - 10/24/09 07:49 PM (98.118.248.16)

No, my position is I really don't give a flying whoopdedoo about someone who will campaign this way, with this information. Not impressed. By him, the woman, or by Paul, when it spews, it spews. It doesn't become any of them.
What has Oritz done for Stafford before this? I mean, besides just move here. Has he volunteered with any of the organizations in Stafford? How long did he do it? What kind of public office has he held before this? Where? So he won a rezoning... Is that the extent of his experience with a county government?
Has he walked any subdivisions besides his own? Where? Has he made any attempt to meet the citizens of Stafford other than his campaigning? Never mind the media, you seem like his personal fan club, so tell us. What has he actually done? and are all his bills paid? has he always paid on time? now go back as far as y'all have on Milde. show us those records too. Since you think we all are worried about that as a county wide issue. If elected, can I call on him to help me in my district? Milde has done that many times for many citizens.
maybe if Oritz and all the rest of the politicians started acting like decent human beings instead of digging in each other's dungpiles, we can actually get someone to help this county. But right now, Oritz and others are starting to smell like what they've been digging in. pure BS politicians.

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dirtracer603
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530586 - 10/25/09 08:49 PM (198.179.157.10)

Wow interesting links...Responsibility & accountability should be the backbone of any governments honor system. Ultimately its up to the voters, if only half of them knew.
And whats with the Milde campaign sign about Crows Nest? That ticked a lot of people off.

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therightstuff
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: DebNearFred]
      #1530613 - 10/26/09 03:43 AM (72.219.215.175)

Mr. Ortiz' website notes his community activities. He is not a newcomer, though he's in a new subdivision right now. He's been very active in scouting and sports despite working outside the county and having been a Marine. He has an appreciation for the deteriorating environment, such as Aquia Creek which used to be a place of recreation for he and his children. His kids attended our schools and got a great education, so he values good schools. There's plenty of positives on Ortiz' website, but thank you Mr. Ortiz for exposing Milde's extensive criminal record. The newspapers have been asleep. Ms. Eagan has been meek. Ortiz saw a wrong and wants to right it! With his extensive management and budget experience, he'll make a great supervisor, if the citizens have the sense to elect him!

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cassandra&sarasdaddy
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: therightstuff]
      #1530620 - 10/26/09 05:38 AM (71.206.139.122)

history repeats itself last losing candidate tryed same tricks what was her name again?

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rockhillgirl
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1530621 - 10/26/09 05:55 AM (71.114.24.7)

I think you need to look at the 4 fingers that are point back when you point fingers Mr. Ortiz. What about the money you took from a contractor that your government office does business with. Tell us about the current HATCH Act investigation that you are a party to?

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amebob
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: rockhillgirl]
      #1530651 - 10/26/09 08:52 AM (71.120.7.135)

Ahh.... politics in Stafford County. I was at one board meeting where all the supervisors were yelling at one another like a bunch of children. If a high school (even middle school) debate team ever acted the way our board of supervisors act, they would be disqualified. The current BOS is a bunch of bullies. They bully one another, constantly cry foul and act the victim, and are constantly playing to the audience. Paul Milde is one of the bigger bullies on the Board. From his website and these posts, it doesn't appear that Ortiz represents much of a change in attitude.

Sterling comes across as fairly even-handed at times, but he throws his support behind Dudenhefer and Milde, who both come across as whiny self-aggrandizing jerks. Brito and Woodson appear to be lacking in any intellect. Schwartz and Crisp just seem tired and ineffective.

What a great group. I won't take my kids to the meetings, because there is NOTHING to be proud of or for them to aspire to.

My cat's looking better and better as a candidate.


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thebus
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1530744 - 10/26/09 02:05 PM (72.214.44.98)

Someone with a criminal record as extensive as his shouldn't allowed to be a bus driver, let alone on the BOS. How did he get his seat in the first place, run against a klansman?

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cassandra&sarasdaddy
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: thebus]
      #1530751 - 10/26/09 03:16 PM (71.206.139.122)

not exactly he thumped the incumbent 55% to 45 % folks tired of the d in that district

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dirtracer603
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1531029 - 10/27/09 01:38 PM (198.179.157.10)

Yeah im curious on how he got the seat too.

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cassandra&sarasdaddy
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: dirtracer603]
      #1531032 - 10/27/09 01:52 PM (71.206.139.122)

he ran for it hilliard tried same tactic ortiz is it bit her in the butt and that was before milde started delivering constituent services even if you are outa his district. he stepped on his crank trying this nonsense after what happened last time

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1531056 - 10/27/09 04:03 PM (152.121.18.98)

Some good points on all sides. One writer indicated that Mr. Ortiz is under some kind of investigation and that he took money from contracts he oversees. What is this and how come that's not prominently displayed on his website.

If he wants credibility, he should offer up his own military, court, financial and other records. How do we know he hasn't been arrested, paid all his bills on time, got a DUI or reckless driving tickets.

What about the Egans?

Appears Mr. Milde got elected in spite of the smear campaign four years ago and maybe because of it.

Sounds like the only special interests he works for is the residents of his district. Isn't that why people re-elect someone.


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cassandra&sarasdaddy
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: TRUTHSQUAD]
      #1531061 - 10/27/09 04:15 PM (71.206.139.122)

i was fence sitting on ortiz till he or his acolytes started this nonsense. he moved me firmly into the milde camp. i was always a fan of milde but had nothin against ortiz till his campaign gave me something

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Edited by cassandra&sarasdaddy (10/27/09 05:46 PM)


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dirtracer603
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1531090 - 10/27/09 05:31 PM (198.179.157.10)

Let me get this straight....You were fence sitting before you read all that controversy about Milde and his criminal & financial records....and now you would vote for him if you had the opportunity. WOW

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Edited by dirtracer603 (10/27/09 05:44 PM)


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cassandra&sarasdaddy
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: dirtracer603]
      #1531094 - 10/27/09 05:37 PM (71.206.139.122)

Quote:

Let me get this straight....You were fence sitting before you read all that controversy about Milde and his criminal & financial records....and now your going to vote for him. WOW





read slower move your lips if you have to get back to us/me when you are caught up

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1531096 - 10/27/09 05:47 PM (198.179.157.10)

I edited my previous post since it appears you live in Hartwood and would'nt have the opportunity to vote for him.

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Edited by dirtracer603 (10/27/09 05:49 PM)


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cassandra&sarasdaddy
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1531097 - 10/27/09 05:52 PM (71.206.139.122)

i was fence sitting on ortiz till he or his acolytes started this nonsense.
this sentence means i was undecided about ortiz

he moved me firmly into the milde camp. i was always a fan of milde but had nothin against ortiz till his campaign gave me something

this sentence means his actions have moved me firmly into the camp of anyone who opposes him. whoever thought this nonsense was a good idea should get a check from milde. he must been napping when hilliard tried this and lost. its always a sign that you recognize your own stuff is weak when you have to work the problem from the other end. then there is the irony of trying to plat the morality/ethics card in this way. that irony might escape some but the voters noticed last time

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: dirtracer603]
      #1531098 - 10/27/09 06:02 PM (71.206.139.122)

Quote:

I edited my previous post since it appears you live in Hartwood and would'nt have the opportunity to vote for him.





even living in hartwood i can call milde and expect a response and some action if it warrants it. try that with the other supervisors sometime. though i gotta admit joe brito is pretty decent too. hes a heck of a nice guy just seems to not be my cup of tea on the issues should probably admit to being a dem.


have you really got your panties knotted over mildes past record? REAlly? why?

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1531218 - 10/27/09 11:36 PM (75.199.192.56)

No, panties not knotted just baffled.

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: dirtracer603]
      #1531220 - 10/27/09 11:46 PM (71.206.139.122)

by what?

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1532500 - 11/01/09 06:01 PM (173.72.135.171)

Harpoon, give it a rest! Isn't there an SPCA you need to go and protest?

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dirtracer603
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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Falmouth57]
      #1532606 - 11/02/09 12:07 AM (75.227.242.110)

Quote:

Harpoon, give it a rest! Isn't there an SPCA you need to go and protest?




Harpoon has been resting, he hasnt posted in over 8 days.

Speaking of resting I saw Mildes editorial cartoon in todays FLS...those skelatons of his just woke up from a long rest...

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: dirtracer603]
      #1534624 - 11/09/09 08:54 AM (71.206.139.122)

and the people have spoken about his record yet again. a question did ortiz take a bigger loss than hilliard? and did his fans help that with their presentation? and didn't ortiz start that nonsense himself? he shoulda learned from the hilliard

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1534649 - 11/09/09 12:32 PM (71.114.7.220)

A win is a win but it looks like the Independent candidates split the vote. The combined Independent totals beat Milde in
Aquia and Courthouse. He did win Brooke which is a strong Republican district. In Stafford we've had candidates win by a coin toss...


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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: Harpoon]
      #1535178 - 11/11/09 11:22 AM (70.109.61.154)

Milde = Barry

Stafford = DC

enough said...

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Re: Supervisor Paul Milde's record [Re: cassandra&sarasdaddy]
      #1535944 - 11/14/09 03:50 PM (198.179.157.10)

I think its safe to say that it didnt matter what anyone brought up on Milde's past. He had an 'R' by his name.

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