MF
Mega FUG
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Posts: 8418
Loc: Margaritaville
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Walmart calls it quits.... http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/Web/walmart/walmart-wilderness
edited cause I can't spell
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Edited by MF (01/26/11 10:19 AM)
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rally2xs
Mega FUG
Reged: 04/03/07
Posts: 7696
Loc: King George, Va
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Hope the people around there are satisfied 5 years from now when gas is $7/gallon and they still have to drive 30 miles each way to buy a T shirt... maybe a $21 T-shirt at that rate... or a $400 / mo car payment for an electric car.
Of course, _I'm_ not happy that they'll be sucking up all that gasoline. The more demand their is, the higher the price will be, and I'm going to have to pay it too.
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saieddie
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Reged: 07/21/05
Posts: 12337
Loc: Moobys
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Awesome! Now WaWa, Wendys, another strip shopping mall, or 3 story glass monstrosity can move in to that space.
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cassandra&sarasdaddy
FUG Dignitary
Reged: 06/27/03
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Loc: hartwood
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i wonder whats allowable by right/zoning. a pig farm would be nice
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LastManStanding
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Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 11744
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Awesome! Now WaWa, Wendys, another strip shopping mall, or 3 story glass monstrosity can move in to that space.
Actually, Wal-Mart owns the land and has stated it's going to preserve it.
Hopefully a land use will be found for the area surrounding it that does not include strip malling and paving over everything.
If Orange would realize it could make money off the area's tourism, then they wouldn't have to screw it up and pave everything over like Spotsy did.
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Funion
FUG Senior
Reged: 12/16/03
Posts: 113
Loc: Lake of the Woods
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I take none of you aside from the first poster and the last poster (the Alan Alda guy who posted previous to this post) read any of the article(s). Wal-Mart stated it still wants to open a store on Rt 3 in Orange County. Several large landowners are falling over themselves to land the deal, who can blame them? I didn't really care one way or the other if Wal Mart was going to be built on the orignial site but I was disgusted that the people against Wal Mart would infringe on a person's right to sell/develop his/her property that he/she has been taxed on for 20-30 years at a commerical tax rate. Let's keep it real here for a second, Lake of the Woods was built on part of the battlefield and areas that may or may not have had direct fighting but sure as hell had someone sleeping/pissing on before/during/after the battle. For that matter so was Lake Wilderness and Fawn Lake. I am happy to see that Wal Mart has/will bought/buy the orignial property.
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loop
FUG Sophomore
Reged: 12/22/03
Posts: 35
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The fight against walmart in Orange County was put together and maintained by people that dont even live in this section of the county, If you do not live on the 20/3 Route, Stay home. We are the ones that live here and have to drive 18 miles to get anything but over priced food from foodlion! Most of the people that we around to protect the battlefield, Has never even been there, Imagine that!
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masterbeater
Mega FUG
Reged: 07/23/07
Posts: 8370
Loc: Spotsylvania
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Personally, I think that is where the secret tunnel comes thru from D.C. to the mountains, to use when the aliens finaaly get here.
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tightrope
FUG Freshman
Reged: 02/08/11
Posts: 1
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I hope walmart holds on to the tract of land and develops it into a mini central park. Just to stick to the friends of the wilderness.
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loop
FUG Sophomore
Reged: 12/22/03
Posts: 35
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I agree, instead of one walmart, 5 big box stores and a five guys.
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LastManStanding
FUGmaster Flash
Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 11744
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Quote:
The fight against walmart in Orange County was put together and maintained by people that dont even live in this section of the county, If you do not live on the 20/3 Route, Stay home. We are the ones that live here and have to drive 18 miles to get anything but over priced food from foodlion! Most of the people that we around to protect the battlefield, Has never even been there, Imagine that!
You obviously have not even attempted to educate yourself on the issue. Look at who filed the lawsuit. Each and every one of them live on or next to the battlefield. And the Friends of Wilderness Battlefield is made up primarily of Orange residents.
But no, they don't live anywhere near the battlefield.
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LastManStanding
FUGmaster Flash
Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 11744
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I hope walmart holds on to the tract of land and develops it into a mini central park. Just to stick to the friends of the wilderness.
Another person who hasn't educated themself on the issue. Take a moment to look and see what Wal-Mart has said will happen to their property.
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rally2xs
Mega FUG
Reged: 04/03/07
Posts: 7696
Loc: King George, Va
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Quote:
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I hope walmart holds on to the tract of land and develops it into a mini central park. Just to stick to the friends of the wilderness.
Another person who hasn't educated themself on the issue. Take a moment to look and see what Wal-Mart has said will happen to their property.
A corporation can _say_ a lot of things, but odds are, this particular area is on the absolute bottom of their priority list for building new stores now. What would you do, if you'd spent a whole pile of money buying land that was zoned commercial and planning to build something, and a few people get their noses out of joint because there's a historical attraction in the vicinity that wouldn't even be visible from the store, nor vice versa? This whole thing has been a travesty.
And what guarantee does WM have that, if they buy some other piece of land in the area, that there won't be a whole new set of people that are all upset about some other trivialaity? Hell, there's been Civil War troops all over everywhere in Virginia. Somebody going to find a civil war belt buckle on the excavation site, and then there'd be a big fight over that, or some other nonsense?
No, if WM marks that area as business toxic, and builds their very last store in the nation there, that wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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stringBender
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Reged: 04/02/03
Posts: 15339
Loc: Near the Burg
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http://www2.orangenews.com/news/news-section-front/2012/jun/20/walmart-under-way-ar-2001894/
They broke ground a couple of weeks ago if anyone is interested. They say it will be open in about a year. Personally, I can't wait.
-------------------- More people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol.
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rally2xs
Mega FUG
Reged: 04/03/07
Posts: 7696
Loc: King George, Va
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Glad to hear it. The region deserves it, dispite the pinheads that tried to stop it.
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stringBender
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Reged: 04/02/03
Posts: 15339
Loc: Near the Burg
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I agree. I heard that they had to fight again because of a bunch of NIMBYs. I talked to a guy that works for VCC and he said they're bidding on the job. All they've had is the ceremony so far but they expect to be open in a year. It can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned.
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DJ_MIKE
FUG Professional
Reged: 01/23/04
Posts: 451
Loc: Falmouth
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To me it sounds like the fight against Disney in Prince William County in the 1990's You had the Piedmont Environmental Council going in there and speaking for people that had nothing to do with it. Granted Walmart is not as Big as Disney but still it's the same thing rehashed and revisted. NIMBYs are people whose only interest is to serve themselves. Where were they at Brandy Station? It's selcective, there is no rdnance or nothing that prevent this selective boycotting. Certainly the needs of the few or the one are greater than the needs of the many. People like that are why this area never gets ahead. You have not because you do not. Do that math.
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In the set of
"Gods & Generals"
Fredericksburg VA
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stringBender
FUGmaster Flash
Reged: 04/02/03
Posts: 15339
Loc: Near the Burg
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I was just talking to someone about the whole Disney fiasco the other week. He lived up there through that whole thing. Isn't where they were planning on building a slum or something close to it now?
-------------------- More people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol.
~W.C. Fields
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StaffordLarry
Super FUG
Reged: 03/11/10
Posts: 3324
Loc: Van Down by the River
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The Disney shutoff was by a very few people with a lot of influence around Middleburg, lots of money and pull there. They didn't want their view of the valley changed, and guess what? Whether their privacy or a lot of low end jobs is a question for the people that live there now.
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Funion
FUG Senior
Reged: 12/16/03
Posts: 113
Loc: Lake of the Woods
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Disney-Manassas:
It is not a slum now, nothing like that at all. The area that was to house the Disney Park is now an expensive, gated community named Dominion Valley. Parts of Manassas and Manassas Park are slum like but this is land is not located near either parts of those two cities, it is north of I-66 and west of US-15. It is also no where near Middleburg, which straddles the border of Fauquier and Loudoun counties. Here is a link to a map:
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/mana/map3.jpg
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